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stmercy2020
ParticipantInteresting topic. I play around with this concept a little bit when I'm designing characters and stories; one of the reasons Sylph hasn't ever had a real sexual relationship is simply that she is too big- at three-quarters ton of muscle and bone, there isn't a man alive who could survive love-making with her. Since she isn't evil and doesn't want to hurt anyone, she has never pushed the issue.
Generally, I prefer my stories to keep women to a more realistic scale; part of this is because I'm not a fan of mindless hyperbole unless it is very well-written hyperbole. I admit that I am a fan of super-strong women; unnatural strength doesn't necessarily require comic book muscles, though, and can be sexy as Hell in a variety of situations.
I guess for me what it boils down to is this: I enjoy big in limited doses, no matter how big we're talking. For a more sustained story, and a story that therefor needs to sustain my interest, I'm much more interested in growth that doesn't exceed the theoretical boundaries of human possibility. If you aren't going to do that, you're going to need some pretty clever plotting and planning to keep me hooked.
stmercy2020
ParticipantFor some of you that keep it hidden away from everyone else, and it sounds like some of you live in little dark holes, you should really get out, join a gym, and maybe you could meet a woman who is into bodybuilding and staying healthy and working out.
I dunno. I go to a gym regularly and I teach a physical sport; I don't think of a gym as an ideal place to meet a woman, though. I know when I'm at the gym, I'm working out and I really have minimal interest in dealing with anybody I don't already know.
As for the stories posted here, some of which I've written, I think you have to remember that there is a difference between fantasy and reality. Some of the things "published" here are brutal beyond all reason, and I admit to deriving a certain amount of erotic pleasure from them- as fiction only, though; I would never have any desire to meet, for example, any of reaperman's anti-heroines. I like my bones in their current configuration and my blood housed internally, thank you very much. On a related topic, I wouldn't particularly wish the lives of any of my characters on anyone; most of them spend most of my stories in some degree of mortal peril (whether they know it or not), and even Sylph is struggling with how her unusual physique affects her and the world around her.
This does get me thinking on another idea, though- how many people would actually want to live with and deal with the reality of living with a bodybuilder? Bodybuilding is a sport that requires a fair amount of vanity; you are judged on appearance, and you have to spend time, money, willpower, and mental acuity to achieve the sort of physique that wins contests. It's not something that they're just going to put down when you decide you'd like a nice night out, either- it requires a nearly obsessive drive, and that extra pint of haagen-daaz is probably not on the menu.
For myself, I don't think I would really want to be involved in a serious relationship with a FBBer; just friends would probably be all the self-involvement I could really cope with on a regular basis.
Now for the second part… Most people who know me have no idea that I write FM stories, or that I belong to a message board like this. My brothers sort of know, but it never really comes up in conversations or anything. I don't worry about it or try to hide it, but I do keep it on the low. I do on occasion let people read some of my stories, but they are edited for general viewing. The story lines stay the same, but I pretty much cut out most of the overt muscle. I shouldn't have to do that, but such is life.
LOL! I'm trying to imagine cutting the overt muscle out of any of the Sylph stories; my brain just can't seem to wrap around it. I let several of my colleagues read my stories, and I make no secret about the fact that I write them. Since I'm too lazy to go to the trouble of printing them out, I simply direct them to the websites where I post them (my dA page, these days) and if they can't figure that I'm interested in strong women from that, then they need an IQ transplant, stat.
stmercy2020
ParticipantI've only really ever told two people in my life about my interest in bodybuilding and muscle. The first one being my sister, and she has never told anyone else that I know of. She is not a fan by any means, she thinks that the bodybuilding look on a woman is to much though. I told her that was what I would like to become someday, and that is kind of where the conversation ended.
I did tell a boyfriend a couple of years ago, and he was a bit shocked to say the least, and did not have any interest in me becoming a bodybuilder or supporting me in that way. So since then I have kept it in, and I am working to get the courage one of these days to really hit the gym hard (I do workout and stay in shape) and transform myself.
Sarah
That really is a shame; women today are sent very mixed messages about what a physical ideal should look like. I won't digress long; I'll simply note that one of my karate students, a girl, recently was teased about having biceps (never mind that they're barely even convex curves on arms so skinny that I can wrap my finger and thumb all the way around them)- she immediately tried to cover them up and claimed it wasn't muscle, it was fat.
I had to interrupt the class to tell the boys to back off and reassure the girl that (a) there was nothing wrong with being in shape, and that (b) a little muscle is a natural result of any physical regimen. It made me want to cry, though, 'cause this is a girl who is naturally athletic and who could, with a couple years of serious training, be a major hardbody hottie. Chances are, though, that she'll go the ultra-skinny, anorexic-waif route.
I guess the bottom line is, whatever you do, you're going to receive the criticisms and value judgements of people around you. It won't always be easy to ignore them, either, especially when they are coming from people who are important to you. Ultimately, though, you are the person who has to live in your skin; do what makes you happy and, eventually, they will probably come around.
stmercy2020
ParticipantOn a slightly more serious note- are you looking for some because you want to read it, or because you were thinking of writing some yourself and didn't want to step on someone else's literary toes?
If the latter, I think you're pretty safe. If the former, give me a few months to reduce my backlog, and I might take a crack at it just for poops and chuckles…
stmercy2020
ParticipantTo be one-hundred percent honest, I'm not a big fan of futa, either- but this wasn't futa, exactly. You described her crotch as being nearly as big as and resembling, not as being; the difference between metaphor and simile. I personally don't need the over-muscled sexual organs- they don't do a whole lot for me- but they don't really make me want to run screaming, either, and I love the descriptions of rigorous training even at the height of sexual passion. Your descriptions of the insane degree of conditioning these three girls have achieved is magnificent. If there's one thing I find disconcerting and a little off-putting about your writing, it is your tendency to describe the muscular girls in your stories as sluts, whores, and easy women- even when they clearly are not (as Jenna and Lt. Cronenweth are not). Hope to see more of your work soon- it's always eagerly awaited and hungrily devoured…
stmercy2020
ParticipantWell, I've been bouncing here and there and everywhere for some time now;
I've yet to see any high adventrue that's beyond compare involving either the gummi bears or their fruit-flavored bug juice. Sorry.
stmercy2020
ParticipantAlso, off the topic, isn't this better suited for the writing questions board?
It would be if it were a question about writing, but it's actually a question about existing stories. I debated posting in the writing Q&A, but I wanted to (as much as possible) avoid confusion. I'm not asking for ideas on something to write, not even looking for approval for a new project; I'm simply looking for a specific genre of stories that a friend is interested in.
I think one of my favorites is Little Baby Daddy 2, by Puppetman, which introduced to us the universe of the Superfem.
There are others I can think about, such as the Helplesscase stories around the Superfem universe and his latest creations: Year Zero and Year One.
Also, you cannot forget Marknew's stories, specially the seemly forgotten Pendant Changes, which was going greeeaatttt (why Mark, why?!) and the also great Alt Universe.
Thanks much, alex- I was familiar with Pendant Changes, myself (and- are you listening Mark?- would love to see it continued), but some of the others are new to me…
stmercy2020
ParticipantThanks, folks- I'll pass these along, as well as any others people can add. Keep 'em coming!
stmercy2020
Participantlol. Not really looking to start writing another project right now, although those are all good ideas; I was (and am) looking for the plethora of stories that already exist. As I say, this is really a search for a friend of mine- I just thought this would be the best place to do the looking (readers who are best informed on the subject in question…)
Thanks for the help. And, eventually, I may decide to do an alt.future type story, so thanks for the ideas, as well (I may play around with a combination of the virus mutation and the drug idea; I think that really has potential…)
stmercy2020
ParticipantAh, but readers will judge. Not only will readers judge, they will critique, and rarely will it be constructive. In other words, if Joe Writer puts forth a story that sucks, he's generally going to be told that it sucks. Telling him why it sucks, so that his next one won't, is a kindness to him. And a writer invites that criticism with every submission.
We agree that readers will judge and even that some will go to the trouble of saying hurtful or cruel things. That's really not the issue- if a writer is so insecure that he can't handle that, it's a shame, but not one I'm likely to lose sleep over. I think where we fundamentally disagree is in the right of a competent, skilled writer to express not only the opinion that something "sucks," but also the reason "why it sucks." The implication is that you know what the author was attempting and how to achieve it better than he does. While you may, in fact, have correctly discerned what the author was trying to do, it's also possible that you haven't or that you're way off base in your attempted remedy. Once again, I think it comes down to a matter of approach.
Also, people publish things on the internet for a variety of reasons. I suspect the most common reason is self-gratification. If that is the case, then telling such a person that their story is terrible, even if you then go on to tell them how to, in your opinion, fix it, is not something that will be well received. In fact, it is more probable that you will accomplish nothing productive and may start what amounts to a flame war.
I think what it comes down to is this: I feel that if you are going to give your opinion about someone else's work, you should (1) be certain that your opinion is desired and (2) state explicitly that it is your opinion.
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