[Trash Boat]

She's just a teenager and I can imagine how offensive these speculations might feel to her, but on the other hand, there's no getting away with the fact that she is a very unique kind of specimen.

[Trash Boat]

Forgot to mention that she wouldn't be the first of a kind in ahtletics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82awa_Walasiewicz

[TC2]

Once a woman becomes 'manly' she is no longer a woman.  Masculinity of that degree is a massive turn off for me.  Some guys enjoy ridiculously ripped and shredded looks with muscular pecs rather than fatty breasts.  But I just can't get into that at all, especially when the facial features and voice get so deep and manly, at that point despite how well defined and gorgeous the muscles look, if the woman looks like a man.  I am done looking at any updates for that particular person.

Renee Tonney comes to mind, I still don't know how guys can still be into that when the woman looks like a dude, but to each his own.

[Mr. Schmoe]

I agree with Collector. I have read posts at other forums by guys about their sessions with Renee Toney. To me that sounds about as appealing as feeling up Michael Strahan. ??? 

[colt13]

Maitolasi, yesterday after i saw the race, i was going to ask you about her. Having seen half of the championships, i have been struck by how healthy the Jamaican women look, compared to the US women, who look like they are dieted down. So this is the first time i had seen Semenya, who has a visible stache onscreen. Then the different outfit as compared to the others(although one woman ran today in a hood and sweats-must have been sick). Then she flexes at the finish line which i would normally like, but sprouts more armpit hair than me. It really is the first time since that cyclist a couple of years back that i really have a question. And i know most athletes in track have smaller chests, but she seems to have no breast tissue.

The thing that surprises me is that she is only 18. Also have not been able to find much online even though they say her times have been so much lower lately. I have no clue how this is going to turn out, but i hope all of the medals Jamaica has one stay.

To delve into the other question, i am not blind. I have no problem with "supplements" being used. I find Becca Swanson and Jill Mills attractive and like both the big shotput, discus, hand hammer woman as much as the figure, fitness, tennis or golf women. But i do like them to care about their appearance.

[CaptMalcomReynolds]

It's a Man Baby!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgOIEGz7o_s

[Trash Boat]

She is actually South African.

The Jamaican women have really looked good and healthy. I've no idea how they train back there, but they seem to have found some kind of fountain of dreams.

I don't think that her time jump during last year is so unusual. As you said, she is very young and at that age many athletes better their results quite a much.

But I'm struggling to understand how media has reacted to this topic. The spectators buuing after her win is something almost unforgivable. Even before anything is published, they have put a big shadow over her performances.

How would a normal teenager response after their appearance is widely critized?

[cpbell0033944]

Look, I'm not an expert on the biology of sex, but I am a biologist, and the problem is that sex is a very grey area when you get to this situation, because there are many different sex determining factors – genetic, hormonal and gynaecological, not to mention psychological and psychiatric issues around gender (the perception of sex and how the individual perceives themself).  The problem is if she has male-like levels of testosterone, because that will provide her with an advantage that would probably be perceived as unfair.  Unfortunately, the reports I have read suggest that she identifies as female and believes herself to be female; hence the trauma that was caused by the insensitivity or the IAAF.

As for the question of how far my attraction goes, I am similar, I think, to Collector and hennellmikey.  If the FBBer/athlete in question has feminine body proportions, does not look facially masculine (which is NOT the same as being ravishingly beautiful) and doesn't have a ridiculously deep, gravelly voice, I'm happy.

[Trash Boat]

I see. What comes to the first topic, there is nothing to do than wait and see. This has been really hot potato in South Africa. There the sporting union has even think about making a complaint to UN because they claim that the tests have racial grounds. It sounds ridicilous reasonings here, but I guess you need to remember that things are a bit different in South Africa: racism is much more present.

[Trash Boat]

And for the second topic, gender boarderlines have always intrigued me. Being turned on by muscles made small boy wonder about ones sexuality and I have questioned my likes and dislikes quite a much. Categorising things into straightforward groups became weird and insular for me quite young.

I guess I could say that I like pretty much like muscles in all forms. I don't care if woman has masculine proportions or other way round. Only no-no for me is that if one is too cut. But I realizy that's crusial part of bodybuilding as extreme body sculpture.

Man, woman, I don't really care. But in the case of Caster, the test needs to be made in terms of fair play. But they have handled the situation all wrong, as mentioned several times alreydy.

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