Caster Semenya – Gender Bender

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  • #86192
    Holiday
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    It is sad when these accusations tarnish the spirit of the games. Put the mustache thing aside, because there are women who do wax that area. People will believe what they want. Maybe her DNA is XXY or something, but it will be a complicated next few months. She won and I feel sorry for her.

    #86193
    Trash Boat
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    http://www.iaaf.org/aboutiaaf/news/newsid=54923.html

    [font=Verdana][font=Verdana]Caster Semenya – Statement[/font][/font]

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    Monte-Carlo – The IAAF, the South African Ministry of Sport and Recreation and Caster Semenya’s representatives have been and still are in discussions with a view to resolving the issues surrounding Caster Semenya’s participation in Athletics.

    The IAAF will not comment upon the medical aspects of Caster Semenya’s case. The medical testing of the athlete is still to be completed.

    There will be no discussion of Caster Semenya’s case at the forthcoming IAAF Council Meeting to be held in Monaco on 20-21 November 2009. No further comment will be made on this subject until further notice.

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    Well that was quite unexpected. It seems that there is something weird about her and the matter has growth out of proportions due to poor handling by IAAF. Now it's not only biological problem but also political. South Africans have been furious and the country's chairman of athletics was kicked out in the process as well the whole association got suspended.

    Lets just hope she can compete again.

    #91443
    Trash Boat
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    Semenya to return to competition in June

    Reuters – Tue, 06 Apr 19:27:00 2010
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    Caster Semenya, the 800 metres world champion at the centre of a gender verification row, will return to competitive athletics at an international meet in Zaragoza, Spain on June 24.

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    The 19-year-old South African underwent gender verification tests after she won the women’s 800 at the Berlin world championships last August and has not run competitively since.
    Athletics South Africa has made clear Semenya is not banned from competition but said she must wait for the results of her tests from the International Association of Athletics Federations which are not expected until June.
    The athlete attempted to run at a meet in Stellenbosch, South Africa on March 30 but was prevented from doing so by ASA.
    “I believe the decision to bar me from competing in Stellenbosch last week was unlawful and wrongful,” Semenya said in a statement.
    “I have, however, considered the request by ASA that I await the conclusion of the IAAFs’ processes by the beginning of June this year before I return to competitive athletics.
    “I have also instructed my legal representatives to seek confirmation by the IAAF that it will complete its processes by the beginning of June.
    “Together with my coach and agent, I have therefore decided that I will return to competitive athletics at the European Athletic Association meet to be held on June 24 in Zaragoza, Spain,” Semenya said.
    Semenya added that, based on medical and legal advice she has received, there were no “impediments” to her competing in female athletics competitions.
    The sport’s international governing body declined to comment on Semenya’s statement.
    “The IAAF will not make any comment until the Semenya case has been concluded,” spokesman Nick Davies said.
    ASA head administrator Ray Mali said he would personally pressurise the IAAF to make sure Semenya received her gender verification test results in June.
    “Everybody needs to be guided by the medical team, which top South African doctors are part of. As long as there is a cloud over her, there will be resistance to her competing. So we need to clear her with the international body first,” Mali said.
    Mali said there was a danger of Semenya being “humiliated” had rival athletes refused to race against her in Stellenbosch.
    “The danger was that this young lady would be humiliated if other athletes refused to run against her, that was my fear,” he said.
    Semenya’s coach Michael Seme believes she will be ready to compete in June.
    “We chose to return in Spain because there are no more races in South Africa this season,” he said.
    “She has been in training but we are going to get serious now and really step it up.”
    Reuters?

    how on earth can it take for so long…

    #91447
    Lingster
    Keymaster

    Maitolasi wrote:

    how on earth can it take for so long…

    Probably because they’re trying to decide where to put the standards. I suspect they’re trying to decide if she’s more male or more female.

    #91452
    Lingster
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    Lingster wrote:

    Maitolasi wrote:

    how on earth can it take for so long…

    Probably because they’re trying to decide where to put the standards. I suspect they’re trying to decide if she’s more male or more female.

    OK, I read up on it. According to an Australian newspaper, Caster has male testes inside her abdomen, with no uterus or ovaries. She has a vagina and no penis, but her male organs produce testosterone.

    I don’t see how they can possibly allow her to compete. South Africa should have addressed this problem before she made it to the world stage and was exposed to this kind of humiliation.

    #91453
    Trash Boat
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    Lingster wrote:

    Lingster wrote:

    Maitolasi wrote:
    [quote]how on earth can it take for so long…

    Probably because they’re trying to decide where to put the standards. I suspect they’re trying to decide if she’s more male or more female.

    OK, I read up on it. According to an Australian newspaper, Caster has male testes inside her abdomen, with no uterus or ovaries. She has a vagina and no penis, but her male organs produce testosterone.

    I don’t see how they can possibly allow her to compete. South Africa should have addressed this problem before she made it to the world stage and was exposed to this kind of humiliation.[/quote]Do you have the link? I haven’t found any relieable source saying any details.

    #91470
    Lingster
    Keymaster

    Maitolasi wrote:

    Do you have the link? I haven’t found any relieable source saying any details.

    Well, there’s no RELIABLE source as yet, but there’s this: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2009/09/10/2009-09-10_caster_semenya_.html

    #91479
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    Ok thanks.

    her testosterone levels are more than three times higher than those of a normal female

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2009/09/10/2009-09-10_caster_semenya_.html#ixzz0kbPSz9Yq

    This was mentioned in the tabloids from early on, but in this case it has no evidential value. In standard doping test they measure the ratio of two types of testosterone in a spot urine test: testosterone glucuronide (TG) and epitestosterone glucuronide (EG). If foreign test is brought to the body, this ratio will fuck up. They can’t make any real conclusions from only absolute value of test levels. It can vary quite a lot between natural individuals and the limits are not exact.

    And Caster passed all of her doping tests.

    The athletics governing body is also expected to advise her to have surgery to fix the potentially deadly condition, the paper reported. The IAAF would not comment on the results that have yet to be released.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2009/09/10/2009-09-10_caster_semenya_.html#ixzz0kbUkTesc

    That’s some heavy stuff if true.

    It’s quite obvious now that she has some male organs. Otherwise IAAF would have pulled all the suspicions of long time ago.

    Ironic thing here is that she might actually be drug free – unlike many of her/his rivals.

    #91555
    bob
    Participant

    It’s androgynous, if you don’t know what that means look it up-Robert

    #91556
    AlexG
    Keymaster

    hallarch wrote:

    It’s androgynous, if you don’t know what that means look it up-Robert

    Yes true, but hermaphrodite is the term normally used to describe such indeviduals.

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