[bob]

If you want to refer to an individual as androgynous or a hermaphrodite, then those two words become synonyms -Robert.

[Don Jack]

the_collector_2 wrote:

Once a woman becomes 'manly' she is no longer a woman.  Masculinity of that degree is a massive turn off for me.  Some guys enjoy ridiculously ripped and shredded looks with muscular pecs rather than fatty breasts.  But I just can't get into that at all, especially when the facial features and voice get so deep and manly, at that point despite how well defined and gorgeous the muscles look, if the woman looks like a man.  I am done looking at any updates for that particular person.

Renee Tonney comes to mind, I still don't know how guys can still be into that when the woman looks like a dude, but to each his own.

Wow, talk about prejudice .

[bob]

I agree with that guy. there has to be a certain degree of femininity to these female athletes otherwise where is the attraction for a man?
This poor creature is genetically androgynous and quite honestly I feel bad about it.
Thankfully most of our pro fbbs these days have an artful sense and they strive to attain muscle mass without carrying it too far. I think that most of them understand what it means to be a woman, and they work to maintain that image. -Robert

[Trash Boat]

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Caster Semenya’s rights being ‘swept under the carpet’, says sports scientist Tim Noakes

An eminent sports scientist has accused the International Association of Athletics Federations of being more concerned with brushing the issue of gender under the carpet than protecting the rights of athletes such as Caster Semenya.

Semenya, the world 800 metres world champion, is still waiting for the results of her gender verification test that will determine whether she will be allowed to continue competing in women’s races.
But Tim Noakes, professor of sports science and exercise at the University of Cape Town, said the IAAF was more interested in the image of the sport than Semenya’s welfare.

“As many as eight ‘intersex’ women may have been expelled from athletics in the past and I gather that they were warned that if they made a fuss, they would be exposed,” Noakes said.
“So it seems it’s not about athletic advantage. It’s about keeping the Olympics free of intersex athletes, free of unwanted complications.
“It sends the message that women must do what men say and if the eight previous athletes had to be sacrificed, so be it, which I find very disturbing.”
Pierre Weiss, the general secretary of the IAAF, confirmed last year that Semenya was the eighth gender case the world governing body had dealt with since 2005. “Four of those athletes were asked to stop their careers,” he said.
But Noakes, who co-founded the Sports Science Institute of South Africa, said the 19 year-old should be allowed to carry on competing, regardless of the test results.
“There is no single test that will show whether you are more male than female” he said.
“The external examination seems to show that she is female and, although her testosterone levels may be elevated, they could still be within the normal range for a woman.
“There are some genetic variants allowed in sport and which clearly provide a performance advantage. I would argue, for example, that Usain Bolt is genetically different.”

Hmm I wasn’t aware there had been so many cases. Most likely because those were handled with no-nsense.

Now they say the final decision will came in late june.

[Trash Boat]

Caster Semenya may compete

Monte-Carlo – The process initiated in 2009 in the case of Caster Semenya (RSA) has now been completed.

The IAAF accepts the conclusion of a panel of medical experts that she can compete with immediate effect.

Please note that the medical details of the case remain confidential and the IAAF will make no further comment on the matter.

I’ll be damned. I was expecting the contrary. Well, this is good news — a sad case in athletics history is now closed but not sealed for a long time.

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