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November 7, 2005 at 9:25 am #17148Tara_CrossParticipant
😳 I was reading some of the posts here and at unreal muscle about that docuentary that aired a while back on womens bodybuilding. I've shyed away from the topic because for the most part anyone that said anything negative was met with an answer that sounded like "shut up we like muscle girls". I've been training for some time and the documentary completely turned me off of the sport. There was a lot I didn't know about like the tearing of the muscles so they get bigger ect i know everyones saw it. Does anyone think I was too hasty in choosing not to train for competition? I'm still training for myself but I'm not going to physicly harm myself to gain prestige.
Lastly if you don't care if i die as long as you get to see another muscle girl please dont reply >.< But someone enlighten me because i've been tormenting myself for sometime about it. Bonne nuit
November 7, 2005 at 10:20 am #17149flashHEART.EXEParticipant: Does anyone think I was too hasty in choosing not to train for competition? I'm still training for myself but I'm not going to physicly harm myself to gain prestige.
Lastly if you don't care if i die as long as you get to see another muscle girl please dont reply >.< But someone enlighten me because i've been tormenting myself for sometime about it. Bonne nuit
That is the most important thing here. If you feel uncomfortable training for competition or whatever, then don't. In any sport, there is always the risk of injury in training and competition. If it is a goal of yours to actually become a competitive BB, you might have to re-evaluate that goal.
Is there some sort of need/desire that being a BB would satisfy? Can that need be satisfied in an alternative manner? etc.
No easy answers, unfortunately. But hey, that is what the Human experience is all about, right?
I think you did the smart thing by not jumping into the BB training right away. It's a pretty big choice. Either way, the best of luck to you in your quest for answers.
November 7, 2005 at 10:23 am #17150Amazon LoverParticipantIf you're referring to "Supersize She", I can't say I totally blame you. As far as FBB's go, that show didn't have the hottest ones of the bunch. Largely cuz of them taking steroids. But don't let them turn you off of bodybuilding totally; there's lots of buff women who stay all natural, like one of my personal faves, Cindy Phillips. Stay true to what you like. If your gut tells you that being an FBB, as disappointed as we may be, to each his – or her – own. Make your own choices.
November 7, 2005 at 10:41 am #17151David C. MatthewsParticipantI can't really add any more to what's already been written. It is your choice, based on what makes sense to you. I'm pleased to learn that you intend to continue training; but hey, I'm just some guy on a message board. We'll more than likely never meet in person, so what my likes and preferences might be shouldn't even factor into the equation. Yeah, I'd love to see you look like one of the characters I've created (as if it was possible that anyone could! 😀 ), but not at the expense of your health or well-being.
(Ironic, isn't it, that bodybuilding was once touted as an avenue to healthy living; now it's one of the unhealthiest lifestyles ever, what with the steroids and the dehydration and the mineral imbalances and etc.)
November 7, 2005 at 2:55 pm #17152JimmyDimplesParticipantWhile there's not really much new that I'm going to add, this tugged at my heartstrings enough to answer.
When I saw "Super Size She," two things screamed at me the loudest: (1) all the unhealthy things and tricks the bodybuilder did to give the appearance of the strongest (even when she was at her physically weakest then… there's a metaphor in there somewhere), and (2) when it was over, she was in Vegas, she made it to the competition, and had her folks alive and well with her in the city, and she was well enough to try it again next year… and she STILL wasn't smiling.
My two cents' worth, Tara? To do something for others' approval is most likely the WORST reason. Strong looking and strong bodied women are great, but I'd much rather see a strong character in action. One strong enough to say, "I don't need to wreck myself for some trophy or others' oohs and ahs."
When I was lifting weights stateside, I KNEW I'd never make a bodybuilding qualifier, let alone a championship. I just did it because (1) I needed to burn fat, and (2) when I was in the bathroom to check my arm for zits, and I saw and felt these big hard bulges that weren't there earlier, I thought "Dang. I actually got muscles." 😀 And wanted to see how far I could take it.
There's only one person I competed against, and that was the person I was before.
Maybe you can do that. Get a picture of you at the start, and record the progress. Before, During, After.
Hmmm… maybe it's possible to get enough still pictures of yourself day to day, and we can make a growth sequence video of it?
Whatever you do… do it safely, and do it for YOU. 🙂
November 7, 2005 at 5:06 pm #17153The_Pimp_NeonBlackParticipantAfter all the words that have come fore, there is little left to say excepting this:
The only person you have to train for is yourself. Our opinions and desires are irelevent when compaired to your's.
So, you must do as your heart compells you to. For there is nothing else.
If you still your Heart to be twained between differing Reasons and differing Desires, then it is advised to delve deeper within the problem and seek advice from those more qualified than ourselves here. Go to your local gym and ask the advise and opinions of fellow females -preferably those involved within the sports of Fitness, Figure or Bodybuilding- and weigh them against your own. E-mail the women whom you do admire the most and ask for their advice. They are often the most honest and more common than not, advise against their sport unless the compedative Spirit dwells within.For my's own part, I's once trained as a bodybuilder but abandon such things because of th overly competative nature of male bodybuilding as well as notion you have to be bigger than the man next to you. I's was not willing to scarifice my's body and flexabilties for such a petty and pitiful thing.
That and I's placed rather badly in my's first amateur competition in German because of the frightful and cleaved nature of my's flesh. After that event, I's was advice to either seek corrective physical surgery or abandon the sport all together.
The latter was chosen.
Some scarifices should not be made.But it is hoped that some words amongst my's rambling may be of some assistence.
But, as always, the choice must be your's.May good Fortune be upon you.
Peace
NeonNovember 7, 2005 at 6:39 pm #17154gblock01ParticipantWith all of the responses to this topic, I can't really add much either. The most that I can do is to repeat what everyone else is saying. I caught part of the Supersize She documentary, and I found it as slanted as the documentary/movie Supersize Me. It showed many of the unhealthy aspects of FBB competitions, but it failed to mention that similar things take place in body building competitions for guys. It also showed that the women looked more like men with breasts due to the massive amounts of steroids that they have taken. Needless to say, this paints a rather negative picture of FBB's. It's true that the hormone testosterone is essential for building muscle, but you don't need to be pumped full of it to get massive. Every human has some level of testosterone in their body, and some (particularly men) have more than others. More testosterone just means that the body builds the muscle faster. Ironically, once you stop taking steriods, your body, to compensate for the sudden surge of hormones, releases other chemicals that wear away the muscle that was gained and usually causes the individual to swell up like a balloon with fatty tissue. It's this shortcut that seems to cause some of the worst problems. The next is the idea that a bodybuilder needs to have as low body fat as possible. If you have low bodyfat, then your muscles look more defined. That is perfectly logical. However, that logic is severely one-sided. Despite what the general public seems to think, your body needs to have some fat on it. There are a number of reasons, the formost is that the fat cushions your body's internal organs. The muscles protect it anyway, but if you get in a car wreck, and you have low body fat, and your a steroid-laden BB, and you tense your muscles, then you are basically asking to have your organs rammed into a wall and have a higher chance of having internal bleeding (pardon the run-on and the inaccurate example). Another problem with this is that your body is metabolizing food constantly. If you have no fat reserves, in addition to to hormonal problems that arise, you would have to eat constantly to keep your body from metabolizing itself. When this happens, the muscles (ironically) go first. Then we get to the aforementioned hormonal imbalances. At first they don't seem that big of a deal, but they can cause some serious problems if they persist. The loss of the menstral cycle in women is particularly bad.
All of these bad things aside, there are some good things about being a FBB. The first is the increase of strength. That is the most obvious. If you don't shoot yourself with steriods, you live a healtier life-stlye. I have not studied health intensively (more with a passing interest than anything), but I do know some things that the media conveniently forgets to mention. In the documentary, all of the women either had implants or were completely flat-chested. That is probably the biggest turn off for most women. Even with steriods, it is possibly to keep a substantial amount of breast tissue. It just takes more work (which is why they don't do it). The entire concept of any BB competition is to win a contest for something that you worked hard for. Shortcuts kill the purpose. Other good things are the increase in confidence, feeling of security, and , to a very limited extent, the ability to stand out and be yourself.
Now I'm starting to ramble. I'll go ahead and finish up. There are two ways to become a FBB. There is the easy way, and there is the right way. Needless to say, the easy way still takes a lot of work, but it involves so many health risks, it isn't funny. The right way, even though it is harder and takes A LOT more work, is the only way to actually live a healthy life-style. Like I said earlier, you don't have to be pumped full of testosterone to build large muscles. Your natural levels are more than enough. It just takes longer and requires more work. If you take steriods to speed things up, and then stop taking them, you will find that you took one step forward and about five steps back. Some of the negative reprecussions of using steriods never fade away, no matter how long it has been since youlast took them.
Whichever road you take, it always comes down to one thing: choice. It is your choice, and yours alone. If you want to be a steriod freak, then that is fine, so long as it is a choice you made outside of any pressure from anyone. If you want to be a true FBB, and not resort to chemical warfare, then that is great (and healthier). If you want to stay at a level of being simply fit, then that is wonderful, again, so long as it is your choice. The whole issue boils down to your choice. It is yours and yours alone.
November 7, 2005 at 8:36 pm #17155BlackKusanagiParticipantIve already talked to you about this on the side…but Im going to say it again anyway.
Although what youve seen has sickened you and really turned you off… theres no reason not to go with what your gut or what your heart is telling you. You can build, who so says you have to do it competitivly. As I stated before, only you decide what you want to do. If you dont want to build anymore, but you enjoy lifting, go right ahead and do it. Its your body, and you should have no doubts about what you want to do with it.
But im pretty sure everyone else has covered this. 😀
November 7, 2005 at 8:49 pm #17156fungo09ParticipantAs long as it makes you happy…. thats all I'll say
November 7, 2005 at 9:57 pm #17157Tara_CrossParticipantThanks you all have been a big help 🙂 I really appreciate it.
Ive already talked to you about this on the side
Yes you did and you rule. See you tonight!
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