[ant1937]

There was a segment on ESPN's E60 show this week which featured the guy with the 27 inch arms and his roid use. I'm sure it will replay more than once. It had the producer of the Bigger Stronger Faster movie on and he said this guy was Mr Roid to him. They showed clips of his endorsement of roids from the movie.

Since that time the guy was arrested on felony roid charges and  describes how a mafia guy nearly shot him for not amking enough revenue on sales. He also has seen his son vacate him, his gym fold, and writes a column for Muscular Development on roids. He has now sworn them off….just recently. Anxiety issues and other things. Tiny little guy height wise which is why he was in bbing. 5-5. Interesting piece, though nothing really astonishing. He aimed at hi arms and I guess was a youtube sensation forworld's biggest arms. Freaky isnot an exaggeration in his case. He spoke of a Yankee game he took his young daughter too where he was put on the big screen and flexed. The whole stadium  started a steroid chant and he was asked by he later saw him in a drug movie at school as the roid example and people said he was cool forusing roids like Arod.

Funny piece.

[Tonus]

The guy with the 27" arms is Gregg Valentino.  His cartoonishly large arms are a result of both steroids and injected oils like Synthol.  Such oils are injected into the muscle and they force the muscle to expand, thus creating the illusion of really large muscles.  They do not add to muscle mass or strength.  Do a Google search on "Synthol" and you'll see plenty of images of Valentino as well as others who have used such oils to such an extreme degree that their arms and pecs look as if someone has stuffed air bags into them.  Notice as well, that Valentino's arms (like those of other Synthol users) do not 'unflex' when they're relaxed.  Due to the excess of intramuscular oil, the muscles retain their shape regardless of whether they're flexed or not.

If you notice, his right bicep has an odd dent in it.  It seems as if he injured a blood vessel when injecting synthetic oils into the bicep, which led to an infection and a huge abscess.  After trying to drain it himself with a large syringe (not the smartest person in the world) he finally sought medical help.  If I'm recalling correctly, a doctor had to cut away part of the bicep to remove the infected tissue, hence the massive scar on the muscle and the strange divot that is now evident.  There was a rumor that bodybuilder Milos Sarcev nearly killed himself when he hit a vein while injecting a synthetic oil into his triceps.

For this, as well as his brash and over-the-top style, and his openness about steroids, he is widely loathed in bodybuilding circles.  One way to turn many a bodybuilder's mood foul is to mention the name Gregg Valentino.

Within the context of this thread it's on-topic, so I'll let you live.  😉  8)

Hehe, thanks.  ;D

[ant1937]

I don't imagine a 5-5 guy getting attention would go over well in a sport that is largely overlooked by any mainstream media. Dan "Nitro" Clark commented on him and roid use briefly. Valentino wrote acolumn advocating roids for MD mag and was apparently in that movie calling them as American as apple pie. His previous physique on roids alone and without the arminjections was disussed as was the infection which he removed on video of course.

They did a full physical courtesy of espn and were amazed to find only minimal damage for a guy in his late 40's with such roid abuse. He didn't start until 30 he said. A dumb guy as he himself said. They did a second taping because he had turned against roids after severe depression. He was writing his first anti roid column. No idea on how it turned out.

[cpbell0033944]

Trouble is, in the wider world, that sort of thing doesn't help the image of BBing one bit.  I  imagine that many will ask why a woman would volontarily enter such a world. 🙁

[ant1937]

I've worked out at gyms for years and overheard negative comments on fairly extreme fbbs several times and in almost every case. Never where they could be heard face by the fbb and usually by other women. Some were along the lines you mentioned while " I wouldn't want to meet her in a dark alley" was a good one as well. The girl they referenced that time was a tall and thcik blonde with an appealing face.
I've alsoheard the "why would they want to do that to themselves"? one more than once. With the pros girls too and I was asked why I liked it at one event by an old lady who was there for another event.

[GWHH]

You know what going to happen here.  After, several years of court hearing and lawyers fees.  She going to plead guilt/no contest to some minor charge non felon charge get fined, MAYBE probation, do some community service and tell kids in high school don't do steriods. I bet you 5 buck that at least a third of every paid professional FF in american takes steriods to get bigger and stronger for there job at one time in the last 20 years. 

Also I think Sherry smith toke steriods for pure size gains-not strength.  I remeber she goes up to 205 in the off season.  She not that strong. 

Like berry bonds.  He NEVER going to be found guilty on those prejury charges.  The Feds broke and/or bent so many rules to get him they will not have enough evidence to convict him any how.  I mean if that Senator from AK got his sentence over turned by the judge and the Feds ask the judge to do it because they broke so many rules and handle evidence so badly.  Just imagine how much the IRS/DEA did the dame thing over the last 6 years or whatever it is.  The longer the investigation into any thing by the feds the more of chance they broke the rules to get it.

Yep.  As I said, it depends on local laws or union contracts, but I would be more surprised to hear that she was allowed back.  This is, of course, assuming that she is convicted or agrees to a plea deal with prosecutors.

[GWHH]

According to

http://www.repetrope.com/women/competitors/detail.asp?CompetitorID=1510

She 5 6 and contest weight of 160 or so.  Off season she can go as high as 210.  NO stats on weigh levels she can lift.  Any one every see any numbers for that?

[AlexG]

I've worked out at gyms for years and overheard negative comments on fairly extreme fbbs several times and in almost every case. Never where they could be heard face by the fbb and usually by other women. Some were along the lines you mentioned while " I wouldn't want to meet her in a dark alley" was a good one as well. The girl they referenced that time was a tall and thcik blonde with an appealing face.
I've alsoheard the "why would they want to do that to themselves"? one more than once. With the pros girls too and I was asked why I liked it at one event by an old lady who was there for another event.

I've had similar experiences as well, in a gym environment while working out.

Interestedly, its usually when you have more then one person in a group situation.  And yet, more often then not, some of those selfsame individuals at a later time will privately confide that they do like femuscular women, find them attractive, even bodybuilders.  But with the corollary that they are of the feminine looking sort and not masculinized she-males. 

I can only ascribe this as example of social groupthink, not wanting to be thought of as "strange" by their friends.

“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)

[Tonus]

Like berry bonds.  He NEVER going to be found guilty on those prejury charges.  The Feds broke and/or bent so many rules to get him they will not have enough evidence to convict him any how.

I agree, although this is mostly about the way the judicial system (specifically, the Grand Jury system) works.  Most of the time, as in this instance, witnesses are granted immunity from prosecution so long as their testimony is truthful.  Because the GJ system is stacked against the accused (only the prosecution gets to make their full case, as this is a process for securing indictments, not verdicts), if a witness lies it can be a severe blow to the prosecution.  So they take perjury EXTREMELY seriously in a GJ setting.  Particularly this one, where the testimony was supposed to be kept confidential (which, given the fact that it got leaked, also could work in Bonds' favor).

Basically, if you lie during grand jury proceedings, the state or federal prosecutor in charge will come after you with everything they've got.  They have to, really, in order to protect that system, which is critical for taking cases to trial.  If you make the GJ system seem unreliable it can really hurt the justice system, so they protect it zealously.  In Bonds' case, I think his testimony blindsided them, and they did a sloppy job in dealing with it, and so they're in a situation where they really have to go after him for perjury, even though their case is very weak.

As for Smith, I doubt she'll drag the case out.  If she's got a smart attorney she will work out some sort of plea deal and serve no time.  I would expect probation and possibly community service.  I doubt she'll keep her job, but don't know enough about it to say for certain.  Then again my knowledge of the legal system is spotty at best, so take this with a large pinch of salt.

[cpbell0033944]

Well, tonus – if your knowledge of US legal matters is patchy, mine is non-existant.  In all truth, my knowledge of the UK system is poor, and I'm a Limey.  I know plea=bargaining does happen here, too, though.  Itseems to me that this is likely to be a lose-lose situation – it won't really scare BBers into stopping using steroids, but it will damage lives.  I start to wonder whether the fight againsty steroids is like the fight against dope – doomed to fail.  Here's a controversial thougfht – is it time for the US and UK to legalise and regulate steroids for over-18s, with a commensurate education programme?  The whole idea of treating adults like adults?

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